UMikhail Pogrebinsky: "Andiqondi ukuba unesimo sengqondo esihle ..."

"Babevumelana" (ukuba ikhona kusekho kummandla Ukrainian ngaphandle epalamente) yaphawula iminyaka emibini isikhumbuzo mdibi d'AFP ibizwa ngegama nebhongo 'isidima revolution "kulo nyaka. Ziziphi izinto esiziphumezileyo liyi urhulumente ngoku, yaye yintoni eza kwenzeka with "geqe" of Ukraine? iingcamango zakhe eendaba ekwabelwana eyaziwa Kiev umhlalutyi wezopolitiko uMikhail Pogrebinsky.

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UMikhail Pogrebinsky, owazalwa ngo-1946, umhlali owazalelwa Kiev. Le yunivesithi, nto leyo kamva owabizwa ngokuba i Kyïv National Taras Shevchenko, ifumene elithile "yesayensi yemvelo", imisebenzi ethile, oko akazalani kwezopolitiko.

Career njengoko a yezopolitiko elizayo waqalisa kwiSebe Microdevices kwenye yeedyunivesithi of Kiev, apho iminyaka engaphezu amabini sele uphumile ukusuka wenjineli eqhelekileyo kwintloko kwelebhu.

Amanyathelo okuqala kule nkqubo yenziwa kwi 80s, lo gama inxaxheba kwiphulo lonyulo ukulungiselela ukhetho kwi Ephakamileyo yiSoviet USSR.

Pogrebinsky - ukuhlaziya

Mihaila Borisovicha Pogrebinskogo eyaziwa kakuhle zombini eUkraine kunye nakwamanye amazwe. Ihlebo ukuthandwa kwakhe - in amava abanzi kwisigaba kwezopolitiko, ubuchule 'nge' ukubona meko, ukufunda phakathi kwemigca kunye nolwazi, ukufikelela kwizigqibo, hayi isekelwe phezu ngamazwi, nokuphonononga iintshukumo kunye nezenzo.

Imisebenzi ye Centre ozimeleyo

Pogrebinsky, isazinzulu wezopolitiko ulilungu amaphulo amaninzi yonyulo, bakha i-Centre ezimeleyo yeeNgcebiso - Iziko eKiev for ezopolitiko kunye Conflict Studies (KTSPIK), phakathi ogama imisebenzi - ukwenza amanqanaba ezahlukeneyo zophando lwentlalo kunye nengcebiso yomgaqo-nkqubo.

Namhlanje, libonise swi ukuziphatha ingcali-analytical uvavanyo impembelelo 'lwentando yesininzi' apha ekuhambeni Iinkqubo zenguqu kuluntu Ukrainian.

Pogrebinsky ngale meko e Ukraine

Iingxelo ezinamaphepha eyaziwa kwezenzululwazi yezopolitiko ukugxeka kakhulu kurhulumente yangoku. Kwinqaku yakhe yakutshanje ugxininisa nkqubo ukungangqinelani abewamemeza nguMongameli Poroshenko, ngokucinezela iingxaki zabantu lunike nezalo izimvo.

Zabo iinqwelwana izicelo umhlaziyi iziphumo vo kuqhutywa.

An izinto Umzekelo razbezhnosti kukarhulumente kunye abantu idata kwiziphumo zohlalutyo lwe zengqondo koluntu kwimiba emithathu ephambili.

Izinto eziphambili ngokubaluleka: real kunye negosa

Ngokutsho iziphumo vo; kuba abemi Ukraine asingomba lokuqala lobudlelwane ne-Russia.

Namhlanje, phezu kwindawo yokuqala kuzo zonke imiba imincili uxabisa imfazwe empumalanga, le yesibini yanikwa urhwaphilizo yoluntu, kwaye eyesithathu ezingqondweni Ukraine na ukunyuka ngqesho.

Abasemagunyeni Kwakhona igunya gqolo kunyusela kuluntu ulungelelwaniso zabo: ngokoluvo lwabo (funda - umnqweno onamandla yaye uyakuthanda), ephambili kakhulu kwaye kuphazamiseke zonke ezinye iingxaki na umba inkcaso evela uchuku Russian. Yonke enye into, njengoko le ngoma iya - ngoko. Ngokwendalo, oku sikhundla kwakunzima ekunabiseleni eendaba, apho, njengokuba sisazi, ukususela ulwazi kobhengezo - elinye inyathelo. Loo ungquzulwano, njengoko kuqatshelwe yi uMikhail Pogrebinsky, waphawula eziliqela eminye imiba ezinye.

ebuhlungu

Ngexesha ekulweni kwindawo uphendulane, ngokutsho UN, wababulala abantu 9167, owenzakeleyo - ngaphezulu kwe-21 amawaka.

Ukrainian Foreign Ministry ipapashe omnye mzobo: ukususela ekuqaleni uphendulane, kukho amaxhoba - amajoni 2600 ababuleweyo - ngaphezulu kwe-9 amawaka.

Ngaphandle koku ...

Ngaphandle koku, vo zibonisa ukuba namhlanje uninzi lwabemi Ukraine kaThixo eqhubeka okulungileyo eRashiya.

Le kwezenzululwazi yezopolitiko ukholelwa ukuba ukuze ugcine kwesindululo eUkraine, uluntu kufuneka bangenele inkqubo impiliso, ngathi de-Nazification in post-imfazwe Germany.

malunga Ekhaya

Oku kuchazwa nje njengenxalenye ebalulekileyo ye-Maidan kwi eziqhelekileyo: utshaba lwethu - Russia, injongo yethu - i revolution yesizwe, ulwakhiwo lwesizwe-karhulumente, njalo njalo ..

inxalenye ngokupheleleyo-nye ye Maidan, eyenza le isizwe Ukrainian, ezama amthandayo eminyaka iphupha - kwenye bawathathe agawula bonke ukuba bahlukane ezintshabeni ubudala ubudala, Russian - ukwazisa ezingqondweni Ukraine. Ukuwa ngenxa yalo imicimbi "ezingcwele" Ukraine ngokwayo - ngokoluvo lwabo, ixabiso kwamkelekile kakhulu.

UMikhail Pogrebinsky ukholelwa ukuba kwihlabathi kwezopolitiko unipolar, isizwe ezibhengeziweyo (icandelo ekunene, "Freedom"), yona imvume ulawulo Ukraine nezinye iintlanga awayengabemi kummandla Ukraine, kwaye okona kubaluleke kakhulu, ukuba Galicians isimemezelo kotshaba ongunaphakade - Russia kunye Russian - utshaba oqhelekileyo onke Ukraine akunakwenzeka. Ikhwelo ihlabathi ekhoyo likhwelo emfazweni, nini, ezinxamnye mantra evunyiweyo: "! Ukraine - yenye" - omnye Ukrainian ejonge omnye umatshini ngokusebenzisa emehlweni.

"Isakhelo liyachitha"

UMikhail Pogrebinsky ukholelwa ukuba ubukho waqhubeka kunye nophuhliso lizwe yakhiwe "sikhokelo yembono balanced", apho kuyimfuneko ukunika iirekhodi leyinene eguquguqukayo. Ukraine - isizwe esintlu apho bonke bafanele intlonelo.

Kuba ubukho Ukraine imida yayo langoku, ngokwembono yakhe, njengoko ichazwe nguye kumajelo eendaba, kuyimfuneko ukuba ukwakha "sikhokelo liyachitha yembono", olusekelwe phezu ephambili kwamalungelo oluntu, ukuhlonipha ukulungelwa eYurophu neRashiya, eyona sikwancedela zonke iintengiselwano

On ukhetho e Donbass

Ukuba ukhetho e Donbass akayi kubanjwa phambi kokuphela konyaka, umlawuli we-Centre for nkqubo Studies, i-EU uya isigqibo okukunyusa kwezohlwayo nxamnye neRashiya. Kuba Ukraine, oko kube neziphumo ezibi: kukuzikumbuza bokuphela sengqondo yaseYurophu malunga indawo kwicala Ukrainian.

Ukuba uvote kuba umthetho unyulo Donbas ikulungele namhlanje kuphela "nenkcaso awodwa". Abanye ulindele imiyalelo evela Sikorski Street (kule dilesi ibekwe kwi US Embassy Kyïv).

Ngokutsho uMnu Steinmeier, unyulo kufuneka lubanjwe phambi phakathi konyaka, ukuba kuvotelwe umthetho iPalamente kufuneka ibe koqhubekeko wenyanga yangoku.

Intlanganiso Matshi e Paris "format eNormandy" eziqulethwe miqondiso ekuqaleni ekuweni inkqubo Minsk ngenxa ekufezekisweni ephuthileyo kwayo - njengoko ukuhlaziya ukholelwa. Kiev akavumelani kunye nezibonelelo zalo ezisisiseko. Yonke into ixhomekeke yokuzinga "nabo" Western.

Umdla "nabo"

Ngokutsho umhlalutyi, ubukho "ungquzulwano engamabhodlo" empuma Ukraine Amerika kuluncedo kuba ivumela ukuba esweni ubudlelane phakathi eYurophu naseRashiya. BaseYurophu nazo ukuhlanganiswa abangabaxhamli Donets Basin kwi Ukraine okanye "ukuzimela thethwane" phantsi kwemiqathango izivumelwano Minsk.

Malunga i "geqe"

Ukususela yokuzinga "nabo" Western kwi "geqe" lwe Ukraine ixhomekeke kuyo. Kwaye ekuqaleni.

Ngokutsho uMikhail Pogrebinsky, sentlekele yangoku baqala iphulo ubhalo Russophobic Karla Bildta kunye Radoslova Sikorski, i Foreign aBaphathiswa Sweden kunye Poland, ababhali iprojekthi i "Mpuma Partnership" ukuze kubandakanywe Ukraine kuluhlu izilangazelelo EU.

Yithabathe umva kwaye akukho bani uya. Ngoku kubonakala kubantu bonke. "Partners" imfuneko engxamisekileyo ukuba Ukraine liphuma ubudlelwane okuqinileyo ne-Russia. Artificial emali fane malunga ukwala Yanukovych ukuba asayine isiVumelwano Association kukhokelele ngxaki zangoku kweli lizwe.

umhlalutyi Political uMikhail Pogrebinsky Qinisekisa ukuba ngaphandle kwenkxaso yangaphandle ungquzulwano ibingayi Ndizuze obungaka. Le mba iya kuncitshiswa zibe irallie ezimbalwa, eCrimea wayeza kuhlala Ukrainian, hayi, imfazwe kwi Donbas.

A nenkomo kule game enkulu

Ngokutsho umhlalutyi, uye wabonisa ngayo udliwano-ndlebe kweentatheli kunye nenani inkangeleko zoluntu, "isidima revolution 'eUkraine, okt Independence, ngeenjongo zalo anti-Russian - .. Ingaba na ukuba ezinye lwemboleko njengoko ipasiswe ezandleni abezopolitiko Western, kwaye ngaphezu bonke US.

ukhuphiswano neAfrika for Ukraine phakathi West neRashiya kwakugcwele ekuqaleni kunye intlekele kwilizwe eneenkani.

"Ukuwa kwenzeka"

Ngokutsho uMikhail Pogrebinsky, Ukraine ijongene neengxaki, eyaziyo, zonke iimpawu kokuwa: ezilahlekileyo ikota amathuba ezoqoqosho kwiminyaka emibini, kwaye izigidi zemisebenzi ezilahlekileyo eCrimea, "polupoteryan" Donbass. Izinga lokukhula kwamaxabiso kweli lizwe, ukunyuka kwamaxabiso zempahla kubalulekile, kwakunye lweerhafu zeenkonzo eluncedo ngaphaya zonke nemimiselo kunokwenzeka. cuts ezininzi mali, hlawula kunye neenzuzo ubeke Ukraine nganeno ngaseludinini ukusinda. Kwaye akukho isiphelo lembandezelo.

Ngubani na ukuba ityala?

Inkampani nabuganga ayamkele inyaniso; ingxaki yimveliso ukuba "ukhetho yaseYurophu" apho Alikho inani elikhulu enjalo.

Ngokutsho uMikhail Pogrebinsky, iYurophu kunye Melika iingenelo nje ukusuka Ukraine obuthathaka - anti-Russian kunye deindustrializovannaya.

Power kufuneka uhambe. Kutheni ukuya?

Ukraine namhlanje kwimeko enzima kakhulu. Kufuneka uqaphele, nkqu nabo kule meko yaqala.

Ukuba urhulumente akazange athabathe ndawo, kwaye kukho ingxaki (oko kukuthi), kufuneka ayeke. Leyo ke logic ubomi kwezopolitiko kwilizwe lwentando yesininzi.

Februwari 16 ukuvotela nentembelo urhulumente Yatsenyuk, leyo ukuphikisa ilizwe zavedshy ngxi kwiKhabhinethi, iPalamente abakwazanga. Ubuncinane efunekayo 194 iivoti no-ukuzithemba motion uxhaswe 226 neerhuluneli.

Umzekelo sokugxeka

Ngexesha lokuthetha ziintatheli RIA "NOVOSTI" (Ukraine) uMikhail Pogrebinsky wathi ibali ukugxothwa ibhityile Prime Minister Yatsenyuk ukuze ziqukwe anthology of parliamentarism Ukrainian umzekelo imeko apho uloyiso "sokugxeka ingundoqo kunye nokunqongophala ngokupheleleyo ngesidima."

Ngokuba umntu endaweni yokubutha: kukho iimpawu abonakele oligarchic "dogovornyaka", nto leyo inxaxheba umdla eliphezulu "nabo" (funda: abathengi) kurhulumente yangoku.

Yintoni elandelayo?

Amandla na ukumka apha, ngeendlela zonke yokuphumla ukhetho okuqala kunye ngempumelelo "uhlab 'i" isandla yesicelo i "kuzo zonke iintlobo egwayimba.

Isizathu sokuba sisazinzulu yangoku nkinga yezopolitiko iqwalasela Yinyaniso yacaca ukuba namhlanje ungekakhanyeli isidenge kuphela okanye nenkani: Maidan (funda: "Revolution isidima", yindawo yedemokhrasi nobuthandazwe, kwakunye isibambiso impumelelo yesizwe elizayo) wangumlawuli, avale nabo izixhobo wedemokhrasi, , okanye "mthetho" neenkqubo zopolitiko "poperednikov".

Qikelela isiphumo uMikhail Pogrebinsky akafuni ukwenza, ukuze uphendule imibuzo ukuba akanayo "sengqondo esihle".